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核心當中的核心啊！"],"title":"立法院第9屆第8會期黨團協商會議紀錄","sessionPeriod":"08","date":20191024,"extra":"{\"comYear\":\"108\",\"comVolume\":\"80\",\"comBookId\":\"01\",\"term\":\"09\",\"sessionPeriod\":\"08\",\"sessionTimes\":\"07\",\"meetingTimes\":\"null\",\"agendaNo\":\"18\",\"agendaType\":\"8\",\"meetingDate\":\"1081024\",\"subject\":[\"\\u4e00\\u3001\\u7814\\u5546\\u300c108\\u5e74\\u5ea6\\u4e2d\\u592e\\u653f\\u5e9c\\u7e3d\\u9810\\u7b97\\u6848\\u9644\\u5c6c\\u55ae\\u4f4d\\u9810\\u7b97\\u53ca\\u7d9c\\u8a08\\u8868\\u2500\\u71df\\u696d\\u53ca\\u975e\\u71df\\u696d\\u90e8\\u5206\\u300d\\u6848\\u76f8\\u95dc\\u4e8b\\u5b9c\\uff1b\\u4e8c\\u3001\\u7814\\u5546\\u300c\\u65b0\\u5f0f\\u6230\\u6a5f\\u63a1\\u8cfc\\u7279\\u5225\\u689d\\u4f8b\\u8349\\u6848\\u300d\\u3001\\u300c\\u6d88\\u9632\\u6cd5\\u300d\\u3001\\u300c\\u8ca1\\u5718\\u6cd5\\u4eba\\u8ecc\\u9053\\u6280\\u8853\\u7814\\u7a76\\u53ca\\u9a57\\u8b49\\u4e2d\\u5fc3\\u8a2d\\u7f6e\\u689d\\u4f8b\\u8349\\u6848\\u300d\\u76f8\\u95dc\\u4e8b\\u5b9c\\u3002\\uff08\\u6c11\\u9032\\u9ee8\\u9ee8\\u5718\\u63d0\\u8b70\\uff09\"],\"pageStart\":\"369\",\"pageEnd\":\"422\",\"docUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/lci.ly.gov.tw\\\/LyLCEW\\\/communique1\\\/work\\\/108\\\/80\\\/LCIDC01_1088001_00012.doc\",\"htmlUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/lci.ly.gov.tw\\\/LyLCEW\\\/jsp\\\/ldad000.jsp?irKey=&htmlType=communique&fileName=\\\/communique1\\\/final\\\/html\\\/108\\\/80\\\/LCIDC01_1088001_00012.htm\",\"selectTerm\":\"0908\",\"title\":\"\\u7acb\\u6cd5\\u9662\\u7b2c9\\u5c46\\u7b2c8\\u6703\\u671f\\u9ee8\\u5718\\u5354\\u5546\\u6703\\u8b70\\u7d00\\u9304\",\"\\u6642\\u9593\":\"\\u4e2d\\u83ef\\u6c11\\u570b108\\u5e7410\\u670824\\u65e5\\uff08\\u661f\\u671f\\u56db\\uff0913\\u66425\\u5206\\u81f316\\u664251\\u5206\",\"\\u5730\\u9ede\":\"\\u672c\\u9662\\u8b70\\u5834\\u4e09\\u6a13\\u6703\\u8b70\\u5ba4\",\"\\u4e3b\\u5e2d\":\"\\u8607\\u9662\\u9577\\u5609\\u5168\",\"votes\":[]}"},{"meet_id":"LCIDC01_1088001_00012","term":"09","lineno":1360,"speaker":"黃國昌","speaker_type":0,"content":["大概再補充一下，今天拿這個案子出來，我感到有點驚訝，本來在交通委","  員會審查時，大家針對這件事情提出很多寶貴的建議，因為交通部轄下有非常多的單位","  ，那些單位所支出的成本與其所獲致的效益到底符合還是不符合，其實大家長久以來都","  有非常、非常多的質疑。包括之前我一直在看的車安中心，當我們開車的人被這些汽車","  製造商欺負成這個樣子，要求車安中心做鑑定報告，就一直拖、一直拖，拖到現在根本","  也沒有能力做出一個解決的結果。","   正因為如此，就軌道中心而言，我想確認一下我所蒐集的資訊是否正確，這裡有二個","  層次：第一，我蒐集的資訊是否正確？第二，你們對於那樣子數字必要性的解釋，首先","  ，設置這樣的軌道中心是不是要花費四十幾億元？其次，有關財務評估缺口，我最近一","  次看到的資料是每年會有1.7億元的財務缺口，目前你們打算如何處理這個財務缺口？","  再者，從預算來看，人事費用竟然占了成本的79%，籌備期間編制25人，1年光人事費就","  2,800多萬元，每人平均年薪上百萬元。看到這樣的數子，我必須要很認真地向次長及","  鐵道局局長說，沒有一個清楚的財務規劃，沒有一個必要性、非常具有說服力的理由，","  我們投入了這麼大的資源再去成立一個財團法人鐵道中心，當然你們每次設置新的財團","  法人時，都把願景講得很好聽，但是我們實際上針對這件事情進行把關時真的要慎重。"],"title":"立法院第9屆第8會期黨團協商會議紀錄","sessionPeriod":"08","date":20191024,"extra":"{\"comYear\":\"108\",\"comVolume\":\"80\",\"comBookId\":\"01\",\"term\":\"09\",\"sessionPeriod\":\"08\",\"sessionTimes\":\"07\",\"meetingTimes\":\"null\",\"agendaNo\":\"18\",\"agendaType\":\"8\",\"meetingDate\":\"1081024\",\"subject\":[\"\\u4e00\\u3001\\u7814\\u5546\\u300c108\\u5e74\\u5ea6\\u4e2d\\u592e\\u653f\\u5e9c\\u7e3d\\u9810\\u7b97\\u6848\\u9644\\u5c6c\\u55ae\\u4f4d\\u9810\\u7b97\\u53ca\\u7d9c\\u8a08\\u8868\\u2500\\u71df\\u696d\\u53ca\\u975e\\u71df\\u696d\\u90e8\\u5206\\u300d\\u6848\\u76f8\\u95dc\\u4e8b\\u5b9c\\uff1b\\u4e8c\\u3001\\u7814\\u5546\\u300c\\u65b0\\u5f0f\\u6230\\u6a5f\\u63a1\\u8cfc\\u7279\\u5225\\u689d\\u4f8b\\u8349\\u6848\\u300d\\u3001\\u300c\\u6d88\\u9632\\u6cd5\\u300d\\u3001\\u300c\\u8ca1\\u5718\\u6cd5\\u4eba\\u8ecc\\u9053\\u6280\\u8853\\u7814\\u7a76\\u53ca\\u9a57\\u8b49\\u4e2d\\u5fc3\\u8a2d\\u7f6e\\u689d\\u4f8b\\u8349\\u6848\\u300d\\u76f8\\u95dc\\u4e8b\\u5b9c\\u3002\\uff08\\u6c11\\u9032\\u9ee8\\u9ee8\\u5718\\u63d0\\u8b70\\uff09\"],\"pageStart\":\"369\",\"pageEnd\":\"422\",\"docUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/lci.ly.gov.tw\\\/LyLCEW\\\/communique1\\\/work\\\/108\\\/80\\\/LCIDC01_1088001_00012.doc\",\"htmlUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/lci.ly.gov.tw\\\/LyLCEW\\\/jsp\\\/ldad000.jsp?irKey=&htmlType=communique&fileName=\\\/communique1\\\/final\\\/html\\\/108\\\/80\\\/LCIDC01_1088001_00012.htm\",\"selectTerm\":\"0908\",\"title\":\"\\u7acb\\u6cd5\\u9662\\u7b2c9\\u5c46\\u7b2c8\\u6703\\u671f\\u9ee8\\u5718\\u5354\\u5546\\u6703\\u8b70\\u7d00\\u9304\",\"\\u6642\\u9593\":\"\\u4e2d\\u83ef\\u6c11\\u570b108\\u5e7410\\u670824\\u65e5\\uff08\\u661f\\u671f\\u56db\\uff0913\\u66425\\u5206\\u81f316\\u664251\\u5206\",\"\\u5730\\u9ede\":\"\\u672c\\u9662\\u8b70\\u5834\\u4e09\\u6a13\\u6703\\u8b70\\u5ba4\",\"\\u4e3b\\u5e2d\":\"\\u8607\\u9662\\u9577\\u5609\\u5168\",\"votes\":[]}"},{"meet_id":"LCIDC01_1088001_00012","term":"09","lineno":1469,"speaker":"黃國昌","speaker_type":0,"content":["剛剛次長說車安中心是負責車輛，而不是軌道，這我當然知道，但我為什"," 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資格這件事情的成功機率高不高？是一定做得到，還是儘量努力？"],"title":"立法院第9屆第8會期黨團協商會議紀錄","sessionPeriod":"08","date":20191024,"extra":"{\"comYear\":\"108\",\"comVolume\":\"80\",\"comBookId\":\"01\",\"term\":\"09\",\"sessionPeriod\":\"08\",\"sessionTimes\":\"07\",\"meetingTimes\":\"null\",\"agendaNo\":\"18\",\"agendaType\":\"8\",\"meetingDate\":\"1081024\",\"subject\":[\"\\u4e00\\u3001\\u7814\\u5546\\u300c108\\u5e74\\u5ea6\\u4e2d\\u592e\\u653f\\u5e9c\\u7e3d\\u9810\\u7b97\\u6848\\u9644\\u5c6c\\u55ae\\u4f4d\\u9810\\u7b97\\u53ca\\u7d9c\\u8a08\\u8868\\u2500\\u71df\\u696d\\u53ca\\u975e\\u71df\\u696d\\u90e8\\u5206\\u300d\\u6848\\u76f8\\u95dc\\u4e8b\\u5b9c\\uff1b\\u4e8c\\u3001\\u7814\\u5546\\u300c\\u65b0\\u5f0f\\u6230\\u6a5f\\u63a1\\u8cfc\\u7279\\u5225\\u689d\\u4f8b\\u8349\\u6848\\u300d\\u3001\\u300c\\u6d88\\u9632\\u6cd5\\u300d\\u3001\\u300c\\u8ca1\\u5718\\u6cd5\\u4eba\\u8ecc\\u9053\\u6280\\u8853\\u7814\\u7a76\\u53ca\\u9a57\\u8b49\\u4e2d\\u5fc3\\u8a2d\\u7f6e\\u689d\\u4f8b\\u8349\\u6848\\u300d\\u76f8\\u95dc\\u4e8b\\u5b9c\\u3002\\uff08\\u6c11\\u9032\\u9ee8\\u9ee8\\u5718\\u63d0\\u8b70\\uff09\"],\"pageStart\":\"369\",\"pageEnd\":\"422\",\"docUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/lci.ly.gov.tw\\\/LyLCEW\\\/communique1\\\/work\\\/108\\\/80\\\/LCIDC01_1088001_00012.doc\",\"htmlUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/lci.ly.gov.tw\\\/LyLCEW\\\/jsp\\\/ldad000.jsp?irKey=&htmlType=communique&fileName=\\\/communique1\\\/final\\\/html\\\/108\\\/80\\\/LCIDC01_1088001_00012.htm\",\"selectTerm\":\"0908\",\"title\":\"\\u7acb\\u6cd5\\u9662\\u7b2c9\\u5c46\\u7b2c8\\u6703\\u671f\\u9ee8\\u5718\\u5354\\u5546\\u6703\\u8b70\\u7d00\\u9304\",\"\\u6642\\u9593\":\"\\u4e2d\\u83ef\\u6c11\\u570b108\\u5e7410\\u670824\\u65e5\\uff08\\u661f\\u671f\\u56db\\uff0913\\u66425\\u5206\\u81f316\\u664251\\u5206\",\"\\u5730\\u9ede\":\"\\u672c\\u9662\\u8b70\\u5834\\u4e09\\u6a13\\u6703\\u8b70\\u5ba4\",\"\\u4e3b\\u5e2d\":\"\\u8607\\u9662\\u9577\\u5609\\u5168\",\"votes\":[]}"},{"meet_id":"LCIDC01_1088001_00012","term":"09","lineno":1483,"speaker":"黃國昌","speaker_type":0,"content":["聽起來是一定要往這個方向走，但是不是能夠真正做到並沒有十足把握就","  對了？"],"title":"立法院第9屆第8會期黨團協商會議紀錄","sessionPeriod":"08","date":20191024,"extra":"{\"comYear\":\"108\",\"comVolume\":\"80\",\"comBookId\":\"01\",\"term\":\"09\",\"sessionPeriod\":\"08\",\"sessionTimes\":\"07\",\"meetingTimes\":\"null\",\"agendaNo\":\"18\",\"agendaType\":\"8\",\"meetingDate\":\"1081024\",\"subject\":[\"\\u4e00\\u3001\\u7814\\u5546\\u300c108\\u5e74\\u5ea6\\u4e2d\\u592e\\u653f\\u5e9c\\u7e3d\\u9810\\u7b97\\u6848\\u9644\\u5c6c\\u55ae\\u4f4d\\u9810\\u7b97\\u53ca\\u7d9c\\u8a08\\u8868\\u2500\\u71df\\u696d\\u53ca\\u975e\\u71df\\u696d\\u90e8\\u5206\\u300d\\u6848\\u76f8\\u95dc\\u4e8b\\u5b9c\\uff1b\\u4e8c\\u3001\\u7814\\u5546\\u300c\\u65b0\\u5f0f\\u6230\\u6a5f\\u63a1\\u8cfc\\u7279\\u5225\\u689d\\u4f8b\\u8349\\u6848\\u300d\\u3001\\u300c\\u6d88\\u9632\\u6cd5\\u300d\\u3001\\u300c\\u8ca1\\u5718\\u6cd5\\u4eba\\u8ecc\\u9053\\u6280\\u8853\\u7814\\u7a76\\u53ca\\u9a57\\u8b49\\u4e2d\\u5fc3\\u8a2d\\u7f6e\\u689d\\u4f8b\\u8349\\u6848\\u300d\\u76f8\\u95dc\\u4e8b\\u5b9c\\u3002\\uff08\\u6c11\\u9032\\u9ee8\\u9ee8\\u5718\\u63d0\\u8b70\\uff09\"],\"pageStart\":\"369\",\"pageEnd\":\"422\",\"docUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/lci.ly.gov.tw\\\/LyLCEW\\\/communique1\\\/work\\\/108\\\/80\\\/LCIDC01_1088001_00012.doc\",\"htmlUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/lci.ly.gov.tw\\\/LyLCEW\\\/jsp\\\/ldad000.jsp?irKey=&htmlType=communique&fileName=\\\/communique1\\\/final\\\/html\\\/108\\\/80\\\/LCIDC01_1088001_00012.htm\",\"selectTerm\":\"0908\",\"title\":\"\\u7acb\\u6cd5\\u9662\\u7b2c9\\u5c46\\u7b2c8\\u6703\\u671f\\u9ee8\\u5718\\u5354\\u5546\\u6703\\u8b70\\u7d00\\u9304\",\"\\u6642\\u9593\":\"\\u4e2d\\u83ef\\u6c11\\u570b108\\u5e7410\\u670824\\u65e5\\uff08\\u661f\\u671f\\u56db\\uff0913\\u66425\\u5206\\u81f316\\u664251\\u5206\",\"\\u5730\\u9ede\":\"\\u672c\\u9662\\u8b70\\u5834\\u4e09\\u6a13\\u6703\\u8b70\\u5ba4\",\"\\u4e3b\\u5e2d\":\"\\u8607\\u9662\\u9577\\u5609\\u5168\",\"votes\":[]}"},{"meet_id":"LCIDC01_1088001_00012","term":"09","lineno":1489,"speaker":"黃國昌","speaker_type":0,"content":["第二件事情是剛剛你說的資金缺口，我現在很擔心的是，這個東西設下去"," 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 基本憲法與行政法的問題嗎？按照你所主管的法規，考試有沒有舞弊、洩題是依照刑事","  判決為準嗎？還是考選部作為主管機關就必須要依照職權主動進行行政調查予以認定，","  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